I've been watching these different teachers and seekers for some time now. And they all seem to have one thing in common a practice for 10 20 30 years and they never arrived at this so-called Enlightenment. It all does seem to be sort of game playing, and then out of nowhere. After 30 years There was the truth right there in front of me. Your consciousness, the answer is always there. It's so simple, and then they go on for an hour to describe the simple thing. And then at the end of the hour you have no idea what they're talking about.
Some of these people are making quite a good living preaching the truth and the others are trying to make a living teaching the truth. I mean, what were these teachers teaching this guy for 30 years, that at the end of it he had no idea what the truth was according to him.
we are pure consciousness with the absence of thought. Now run along and joy your life
Submitted by Charlie Hayes on Sun, 01/17/2010 - 09:46.
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What Conditiong?
Some talk about "conditioning" being an "obstruction" to realizing our True Nature. Here is a recent Q and A that addresses this fallacy....
Q: I was listening to one of your Podcasts, cant remember which, and this question arose. Isn’t repetition a sort of reconditioning, of the conditioning? Love, J.
C: It's really about letting the deconstruction of the false identity happen, so to speak. Repetition may be needed; the identity is a habit sometimes not quickly seen to be just habitual patterns or intrinsically meaningless thoughts. Language! Whereas, what you REALLY ARE is prior to consciousness, prior to language, prior to either being or non-being! And THAT is fully present and awake right "here" and right "now." It's always ON..
The startling thing is when "it" ... the linguistic "entity" ... with its assumed "conditioning" ... is deconstructed it gets clear as day there never was anything there. No entity, no conditioning! It was only a linguistic trick, an assumption which is revealed as false when sufficiently investigated.
It could be said to dissolve, but that's like saying that the water in a mirage dissolved. It was never there to begin with.
the problem is you're trying to describe something that can't be described with words. it can't be figured out using the mind.what to do about this problem............ who knows.
I've been watching these different teachers and seekers for some time now. And they all seem to have one thing in common a practice for 10 20 30 years and they never arrived at this so-called Enlightenment. It all does seem to be sort of game playing, and then out of nowhere. After 30 years There was the truth right there in front of me. Your consciousness, the answer is always there. It's so simple, and then they go on for an hour to describe the simple thing. And then at the end of the hour you have no idea what they're talking about.
Some of these people are making quite a good living preaching the truth and the others are trying to make a living teaching the truth. I mean, what were these teachers teaching this guy for 30 years, that at the end of it he had no idea what the truth was according to him.
we are pure consciousness with the absence of thought. Now run along and joy your life
JOHN
What Conditiong?
Some talk about "conditioning" being an "obstruction" to realizing our True Nature. Here is a recent Q and A that addresses this fallacy....
Q: I was listening to one of your Podcasts, cant remember which, and this question arose. Isn’t repetition a sort of reconditioning, of the conditioning? Love, J.
C: It's really about letting the deconstruction of the false identity happen, so to speak. Repetition may be needed; the identity is a habit sometimes not quickly seen to be just habitual patterns or intrinsically meaningless thoughts. Language! Whereas, what you REALLY ARE is prior to consciousness, prior to language, prior to either being or non-being! And THAT is fully present and awake right "here" and right "now." It's always ON..
The startling thing is when "it" ... the linguistic "entity" ... with its assumed "conditioning" ... is deconstructed it gets clear as day there never was anything there. No entity, no conditioning! It was only a linguistic trick, an assumption which is revealed as false when sufficiently investigated.
It could be said to dissolve, but that's like saying that the water in a mirage dissolved. It was never there to begin with.
It’s a good question. Thanks! Love ya back.
the problem is you're trying to describe something that can't be described with words. it can't be figured out using the mind.what to do about this problem............ who knows.
JOHN
Thank You Charlie! The mirage never was! It is a very clear pointer.
Love,
Ben