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Trailer: "Non-duality Life as it is"
Documentary: “NON-DUALITY LIFE AS IT IS” Available on DVD as first of June 2011 Humans perceive their daily life in the world as a reality. This is due to the belief of cause and effect. This belief creates thoughts of actions, which convince man that his day is filled with events and situations. Conclusions about these make way for emotions, which include feelings, such as misery and the quest for happiness, that man experiences. This documentary, based on the books written by Dr. Vijai S. Shankar, crosses the boundaries of mind by stripping away beginnings and endings and the concept of time, thereby exposing the reality of doership as illusory. The documentary unveils time and reality for what they really are, which is an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound.
http://www.acadun.com/en/Academy/film/Non-duality%20Life%20as%20it%20is.html
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The witnesser, a sophisticated ego, watches thoughts of actions happen as unavoidable part of illusory life without being convinced by them that his day is filled with events and situations.
Humans on the other hand perceive their daily life in the world as a reality. This documentary, based on the books written by Dr. Vijai S. Shankar, crosses the boundaries of mind by stripping away beginnings and endings and the concept of time, thereby exposing the reality of doership as illusory.
The documentary unveils time and reality for what they really are, which is an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound.
I will repeat my question again.....
did SRI SRI SRI SRI SRI Vijay shankar write those books or did he not....
only that..
so that you..cowards can answer it first, and then go on with your sales pitch later...
of course you can , without answering it..but even that is fine....you would prove what i was sayiing about you folks ...anyway...
SO I ASK AGAIN..in plain english...
did SRI SRI VIJAY SHANKAR write em books or not!
I am not asking you if he was a silent witness when writing those books, if he was wearing only pyjamas, or wearing only upper graments and nude down town...what not
a very smple quetsion to you...
did sri sri sri vijay shankar write those books or not!
The mind asks for "yes or no" without understanding what it means that both are illusory.
Life appears as humans writing books.
Thanks for the movie trailer Marcus ... looks interesting. Especially its take on exposing the elusiveness of beginnings and endings in relative linear time. A good way to begin to understand beginninglessness ... (If there is there such a word?)
TO MARCUS,
>>>>>The mind asks for "yes or no"
The mind asks for "yes or no" without understanding what it means that both are illusory.Life appears as humans writing books.
did I ask you to reply only in terms of "yes" or "no"? that you ran away into the "safe house of yes and no are illusonary" demonstrates your absolute academy of cowardice..
and i also did not ask you what i was...mind...no..mind...and what not
you answer , everything else except what i asked you directly....( and I know why)
I simply asked you , and am still asking you a very simple question....
did sri sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
what bulls shit and evading and running away!! life writes these books appearing as humans.....
I am not contesting if life writes them(appearance or in reality etc etc ) or not......even a 5th grade student will tell you if it is life or something else which writes , breathes , speaks , dies or not.....
I am asking you a very simple question...
did SRI SRI SRI SRI VIjay shankar write these books or not!
if he did not /could not( in your "reality") answer it so.
----vijay kumar "in reality" did not write these books!!---SIMPLE!!!!what difficulty are you facing?
YOU CANNOT YOU CANNOT ...for cowards are you!!!.....BECASUE ON THAT INSTANT YOU KNOW I WILL TEAR YOU TO PIECES!
you do not have any conviction in your own understanding( OR YOU "DO" SOMETHING( sell books "written" by vijay kumar) and preach something else( that in reality no writer or writing)) ....and want people to listen ....what does it prove...that you are a bunch of liers doing a great harm!!! it is only simply that.
man/woman...what living "more" than gods these are! and you want to make them beggars!
so without againg running away again , to here and there...you can first answer this simple simple questin...
did sri sri sri vijay shankr write these books or not!
The mind asks without questioning the question and the answer.
Books appear to be written by apparent human beings, books appear to be sold and money to be payed. What harm could there be? All happens if it is meant to happen and no force on earth could make it happen or prevent it from happening.
What is man/woman? When could any human being have begun to exist, when could have been the beginning of his or her movement on earth? As the beginning of a human being could not be determined, how could there be a beginning of an action like "writing"? And how could "writing" be separate from the rest of life? What could be "cause and effect" as none of them has a beginning and an end? Therefore actions are illusory and doers do not exist as real.
Time and reality are optical and auditary illusions of light and sound.
>>>>>Books appear to be written by apparent human beings, books appear to be sold and money to be payed. What harm could there be?
Did I say you were doing harm, by selling books? Did i? what did I say??…you “do” something and “preach’ something else altogether!.
You are like a person , who searches inside his/her pockets , to make sure nothing is there inide…when someone shouts “THIEF’ THIEF”!!!!
Having said that …even now , you exhibit a complete lack of integrity, cowardice and maintain to run away from my simple simple simple question…
“Did Sri Sri Sri Vijay Kumar write these books or not”!
As I said , you cowards cannot answer it and I know why! But before that , let me allso ask you to focus on one more thing….
The moment you answer it , let me tell you , people can hound you with legal suites!
Yep..the profession where I come from , I see lawyers/cases all day…and let me tell you…chap..
The moment you answer it directly , this simple question…if someone wants to..he can drag you to the roads….what??? oon something said on a cyber forum?…internet?..you might ask…well …warm regards and all the best!
Anyway, As I was saying…it is impossible for you cowards to answer my question. You can only evade it , by saying this and that…but as I keep saying ..you cowards can never answer the my ..simple simple question! And on the other hand want to demonstrate why mind, this and that is an illusion!!!
I will ask you again..
DID Sri Sri Vijay Kumar write these books or not!?
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>>>>As the beginning of a human being could not be determined, how could there be a beginning of an action like "writing"?
The same way you will determine if somone had “paid” for your DVDs and Books and only them ‘give’ them to him/her! HEY DON’T SAY YOU AFTER BEING PAID , TAKE THE MONEY AND REFUSE TO GIVE THE BOOK(S) BY SAYING GIVING IS ONLY A APPEARANCE WHICH CANNOT BE DETERMINED! ARE YOU DOING IT? Any way …
As I keep saying…you “do’ something and “preach” something else..so I ask you cowards again…
DID SRI SRI SRI Vijay Shankar write these books or not!?
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>>>>And how could "writing" be separate from the rest of life? What could be "cause and effect" as none of them has a beginning and an end?
Does not “someone” “paying” for you books “end” in “you” “giving” them “ your” “DVDS” or “Books”…
Do they or don’t they!? ( even this also you cannot answer……)
As I keep saying…you “do’ something and “preach” something else..so I ask you cowards again…
DID SRI SRI SRI Vijay Shankar write these books or not!?
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>>>>>>Therefore actions are illusory and doers do not exist as real.
So the writer is an illusion, wrtiing is an illusion..then what about the “written”…
So I will ask you ..if all that is “written” is also an illusion!?
If it is then what ever SRI SRI SRI Vijay Shankar wrote has no validity , not real, a lie ..however noble and brilliant/liberating etc etc it might seem!
Will you agree? If not and what is “written” is real…
Then all that one needs to do is “write” the “writer is real”!
Will you agree?
As I keep saying…you “do’ something and “preach” something else..so I ask you cowards again…
DID SRI SRI SRI Vijay Shankar write these books or not!?
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>>>>>Time and reality are optical and auditary illusions of light and sound.
Don’t you determine a time in which somone has “not payed for your books/DVDs”
Don’t you determine a time where he / she has completed paying and only then give him/her his books?
As I keep saying…you “do’ something and “preach” something else..so I ask you cowards again…
DID SRI SRI SRI Vijay Shankar write these books or not!?
Through the Academy of Absolute Understanding Life does not dispense knowledge, neither by answering questions nor by preaching a certain behavior.
An understanding gets shared, that the mind, the world and all that man believes to be reality is illusory and not real.
Illusory words point out their own illusoriness.
Thats right..... Run..run..you cowards..keep running...You have/will never answer my question...and i will never stop opening up your cowardice..
I thus will ask you again..
Did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
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>>>>>An understanding gets shared, that the mind, the world and all that man believes to be reality is illusory and not real.
Again you say “shared”...so when you are on a sales pitch the “action’ is very much there...and what is your morbid & dirty product?: ‘that” an action is not real!
You are part of an ancient curse..that attempts to plague this world.....cowardice..thats what your academy is....
I thus will ask you again..
Did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
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>>>>>Illusory words point out their own illusoriness.
a word is never an illusion…it has its on validity,,,that is why even your circus troup boss can write books(which consists of words….I am saying this because I am not sure if you , yourself read SRI Vijay Shankar books or not! People selling drugs need not use them , you know!) even bullshitting that words are illusonary.
If it was other wise ..( that words being illusonary and with no real validity…and point only to their own illusoriness..) what ever your circus manager writes also do not have any validity and are a lie…
So is your boss telling a lie?
I thus will ask you again..
Did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
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Man does not write, let alone Dr. Vijai Shankar, it appears as if man writes which is an optical illusion. Writing happens to man and not only to Dr. Vijai Shankar.
as i keep saying it is beyond you to answer my simple simple question..
did sri sri vijay shankar write these books or not?
it is beyond you...to yoyur cowards answer this question..
and let me tell you you have very good reaons...the moment you answer it ...there is a very good chance that you will be hounded by people..people like who trip in the departmental stores and sue the departmental stores...? heard of them..they make a living by filing suits...
any way ...i ask you again..you cowards...
did sri sri vijay shankar write these books or not?
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>>>Man does not write, let alone Dr. Vijai Shankar, it appears as if man writes which is an optical illusion.
if wrting and writer are an illusion is written also an illusion?
if written also an illusion than whatever vijay shankar writes is not real ..has no validity and a lie...will you agree?
if written is real than all one needs to do is write...
"writer and writing is real"(which i jut did!
for you to answer these questions..in your cowardice ...is an immpossibility..that i why i am not asking you these questions..i am asking you a simple question//
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not?
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>>>>Writing happens to man and not only to Dr. Vijai Shankar.
ahhh...so all men are low life ...writing not only hapens to the great great vijay shankar but also to us the low life! you cold have atlest added "other" in front of "men"..nope!...
in your cowardice you have created a zillion zillion blind spots..and that is what your academy will also spread ..blind spots.....some unintentional ...an example being the above! anyway....
even my 9th grade nephew will tell if writing happens to men/women or not...i did not ask you to lecture on it....
i am asking you to answer ...
did sri sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
it is impossible for you to answer this!!!!!.....
All that can be said (speech is auditory writing and it happens just as writing happens) is it appears as if Dr. Vijai Shankar has written the books. It is an appearance and not an actuality. Appearances has given rise to the conviction of 'man the doer'. The written too is illusory for the written is nothing more than design of ink on paper. Familiar designs project an optical illusion of words. The world is an optical and auditory illusion of light and sound (Bindu and Naada). If writing were real man would be only writing and doing nothing else, for real means that which never changes and is eternal. In which case even a single word cannot be written for which part of the single word could be real? Understand therefore writng cannot happen if it were real, similarly nothing can ever happen if it were real. Only the illusory points to the real, for the real has no need to point to itself.
by still not answering my question...
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not...and
keeping on lectuting.THAT IT APPEARES HE WRITES THEM..THAT IT ONLY APPEARS YOU PAY FOR THEM...and what not....you only make your cowardice even more and more obivous!
thus i ask you cowards again...
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not
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>>>> If writing were real man would be only writing and doing nothing else, for real means that which never changes and is eternal.
as i said a zillion zillion blind spots..you have created and now hell bent on spreading them!
"if writing were real one would only be writing"! what fear and what cowardice....
then "not writing" is real and people should never write!..
will you agree?
it is never a question of writing or not writing..it is allways a question of not running away like you cowards from "what is" was or will be...
REAL MEANS WHICH DOES NOT CHANGE? what bull shit!
real means that which does not fear change...that is why...
CHANGE IS REAL! OR CHANGE CAN BE REAL! .....and more than real...the beauty of life..the color of life..
so i ask you again...to reply without running away...
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
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>>> similarly nothing can ever happen if it were real.
who is calling it real or illusion? is it the happenning that calling itself real? it is you! who runs away from it and calls it not real ! which is cowardice and morbidity in life..
to take a thing head on..is fearlessness and freedom..in the light of such basic nature of man..every happenning becomes more than real and not just real...the beauty of life..and the color of life..and the "meaning" of life...
that is why I ask you cowrds again..
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!
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>>>>Only the illusory points to the real, for the real has no need to point to itself.
enlightenment or understanding is never never a questin of what is! this "pointing to" , illusion, reality all mumbo jumbo is because of the wrong understanding in cowardice that enlightenment is about "what is"!
In life ..even illusion has a reality...to state it so ..is the basic nature of man...fearless and free...
something which will be beyond the understanding of your cowardice..
that is why I ask you again..
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!
Not writing is just as unreal as writing both being an appearance and not an actuality. That which changes is unreal or illusory, the beauty of life is light and sound and its illusory projections that appear real to the mind. The reality of an illusion is its illusoriness. For anything to happen in life for example writing, time would be needed. Time however is absent in life. Therefore, Dr. Vijai Shankar writing the books is an optical appearance and not an actuality. All there is in life is energy and energy is light. The mind cannot comprehend or understand the intelligence of life.
you lecture a lot and awfully sound like my mom!
if you are a bit shy to ask me a doubt .. let me tell you that you nned not..
but if you genuinely believe that you could impart me with something...let me tell you IAM standing on a higher ground and at the moment looking "down on you....
having said that....let me rmind you..no matter what lenghty lectures you give...you have not yet answerd my question..let mesee 15 posts..not yet...
did sri vijay shankar write these books or not!?
nope! it appears this it appears that you keep on saying!
bang! if you had any convistion in what you preach/spread..
bang..you should have said...
sri sri vijay kumar did not write these books! period..
but i and you also know why you cant!
if you somehow muster some courage and say it now...after this post let me tell you you are late and in being this late admitted to what i was originally saying about you!
if you have any doubts you can ask me..but look up and ask me! and do not hide behind the mask of lecturing!
do you have anything to say? marcus????
The mind interprets responses as if man were the doer. The mind does not understand for it believes in knowledge as real. Marcus does not write too, writing happens to him like to Dr. Vijai Shankar and to Angyidiot. "Higher" or "lower" is therefore unreal, i.e. illusory too.
>>>>>>>The mind interprets responses as if man were the doer. The mind does not understand for it believes in knowledge as real.
who says there is no doer? is a question which you basically run away from!
you think saying it is the ego/macrus is wrong and goes contrdictory to the no doer...
and you cant say mind too..as it would be the same thing as admitting it is the ego/marcus...
thus as the first step....you seperate mind and man! so there is no doer in the first place...it is the mind which props up the doer...
and then as the second step you say that understanding...that there is no doer happens "outside" the mind!....
all this is morbidity and cowardice....the cowardice to live, love, hate, win, lose, pain ... and die....
no matter ho far and how deep you want to run away....you are free when and only when you "realise" that the ego/marcus is not just truth but "more" than truth and is life!!
head on head on take things head on...
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>>> Marcus does not write too, writing happens to him like to Dr. Vijai Shankar and to Angyidiot.
as i said you harbour a fear to live, to love, to lose , to fail to win......
so where do you hid..its not me who is in pain..but pain appears to be happenning to me!
head on...damn pain to be an illusion or reality give a damn ..it doesnt matter..do not fear it.take it head on.....and bang..in that instant you are free.....
and only that is the truly free! LIGHT! thats how the light shines through!tearing away the "thin" layers of smokes(lies).....
saying everything is light and sound ...where does it takes you...only to morbid ,cowardice stagnation....and in the end you will be running again....panicing...but that would be good too for then you will realise what light truly is...
direct...simple..shining through..taking things head on....
the direct route..the simple route..the ground to earth route..and the only route....taking things head on!
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>>>>>>> "Higher" or "lower" is therefore unreal, i.e. illusory too.
is there such a thing as a n illusonary 'higher" and a real "higher" if there is then I am that real "higher" than you.
if there is not...how caome you call "higher" unreal? unless you instinctively know that there is a "real" counterpart...in other words...
saying everything is an illusion is the proof of it being real! if everything is an illusion why or how does one call it illusion?
thus that I am higher than you and as of now I see you "down" below me is not just real but more than real!
what do you say marcus?! do you have something to say?
The question is not "Who am I?" but "What am I?" Understand there are no egos in life, life is light and sound and so is the mind. The mind is an illusory projection of life itself. Understanding does not happen "outside" the mind, for "outside" and "inside" are just as illusory thoughts as every other knowledge too.
Illusory does not mean that it has no value! Is is the only which could be lived and enjoyed, never the real. But once understood that the mind is illusory there is no question of how to get rid of fear.
It is life which imparts to man that man, the world and the mind are illusory and not real, all there is is energy, a play of light and sound.
The mind seems to run away from something only because it believes thoughts to be real. There is no need to run away from the illusory, and the question of running away or not running away does not appear real to a man of understanding for he spontaneously understands that all just happens as it is meant to happen.
>>>>>>The question is not "Who am I?" but "What am I?"
I am the what in the who..I am the who of the what
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>>>>>Understand there are no egos in life,
you and your daiper wearing - I-want-my-mymmy boss- first understand...that...
LIFE IS IN THE EGO---EGO IS OF LIFE
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>>>Illusory does not mean that it has no value! Is is the only which could be lived and enjoyed, never the real.
as long as you call this world illusonary...you are right in saying it will be there to be enjoyed...AND NEVER ENJOYMENT!
the moment you stop calling it an illuion , not just enjoyment..it becomes 'more than enjoyment"...LIFE!
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>>>It is life which imparts to man that man, the world and the mind are illusory and not real, all there is is energy, a play of light and sound.
Life as such does not talk about ..mind...man....illusory..not real....energy..potential energy...kenetic energy...foot ball game Geramn Beer etc etc etc.....IT IS THROUGH MAN THAT LIFE SPEAKS!
LIFE IN MAN..MAN OF LIFE...
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>>>>The mind seems to run away from something only because it believes thoughts to be real.
is a sick and morbid understanding of fearlessness.
despite something being real..mind has the ability to hold ground! BANG in that moment...there is life in mind ..and mind of life!!! simple ..direct, everyones, .....taking things head on...
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>>>>>There is no need to run away from the illusory,
and thus you illusionise the world...fearing it.
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>>>>>and the question of running away or not running away does not appear real to a man of understanding for he spontaneously understands that all just happens as it is meant to happen.
"man of understanding"....what sudden brilliance! understanding/LIfe/ in ego/man/mind & man/ego of Life/understanding....what sudden brilliance....
anyway....
when there is an understadning that "it" is simply as meant to happen ...there is no calling "it" a illusion or real!
in fact when seen with such understanding there is a calling of it to be "more than real"....
what ever happens to me ..evry moment , every second is not just real..but more than real....and why is it more than real.....I can give you a thousand reasons...
because I am light that cuts through all lies...
because I am fearless
because I am LIFE!
because I /Life can never be lessened...
because I/Life is allways "more".....dont confuse "more" with wanting "more" but simply as such and as I am .."more"
because every second, every minute is priceless and cannot be "measured"!....which is the true meaniing of saying time cannot be measured!
what do you say marcus? do you have something to say?
I am the what in the who..I am the who of the what
So fear is you and you are the fear. The eye cannot see itself, the nose cannot smell itself, the ear cannot hear itself and the tongue cannot taste itself. The robber cannot turn into a police to catch himself. Similarly you being fear cannot face fear.
I am the what in the who and the who in the what means
I am fearlessness in the person and a person of fearlessness
what do you say marcus..do you have something to say?
say it aloud ...I am not able to hear you ..you are standing so down below...!!!
I am fearlessness in the person and a person of fearlessness
So again the 'you' cannot face, as the 'you' is fearlessness. Therefore, understand a person is illusory and so is its fearlessness. Understand that a person's fear is illusory too for a person, its fear and its fearlessness are thoughts which are nothing but sound in life! and fear is always 'there' and never 'here' and 'there' is illusory for it is never 'here' and here is all there is.
>>>>>So again the 'you' cannot face, as the 'you' is fearlessness.
the statement is self contradictory. either i should not face or I should be fearlesness..only one and i told you I am fearless!
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>>>>> Therefore, understand a person is illusory and so is its fearlessness.
a person is not just illusonary but "more" than real for he is fearlessness.
what am I? I am a fearless person! why do I add a person infront of fearless when a person is fearlessness itself?..simply because I am fearless! the eye can see th eye..thus!
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>>> Understand that a person's fear is illusory too for a person, its fear and its fearlessness are thoughts which are nothing but sound in life!
fearlesness has no fear what it is..illusonary or real or a thought etc etc etc there in lies the freedom..the direct route.the simple route..and the only route...
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>>>>>and fear is always 'there' and never 'here' and 'there' is illusory for it is never 'here' and here is all there is.
the above is simply the fear of fear being here and nothing else...
what do you say marcus? do you have anything to say?
say it aloud as you keep going even down....
the statement is self contradictory. either i should not face or I should be fearlesness..only one and i told you I am fearless!
Response: When 'you' are fearlessness like you said 'you' are, 'you' cannot and will not be able to face fear, for 'you' would not know what is fear. Your statement made about facing fear is therefore contradictory, albeit illusory.
>>>>>>When 'you' are fearlessness like you said 'you' are, 'you' cannot and will not be able to face fear, for 'you' would not know what is fear.
>>>>> as i said....there are a zillion zillion blind spots in your understanding ...owing o your absolute cowardice...
let me remind you your own understanding that there is only "here" ..it is absolutely splendid and a gem!
only the "now" has any validity( in the context of what we are discussing)...and what am i in the now...????
a fearless person!...i will elaborate more...
if I am fearlessness why or how do i fear///or face fear//or percieve fear...?
that question and that "fear" is gone .."past"..IN YOUR OWN WORDS THE "THERE"...and what is now...only the light...the FEARLEssness or more correct "fearless" cutting through...
and despite that what do i say... I am a fearless person..why simply because i am fearless..
that is full this is full
from that full this takes the full
and remains the full...( this is the shanti mantra for the isa upanishad...may be you could read it...)
or in your own words the above is th ereal meaning of the not two...the person and fearless...not two....
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>>>>>>>>Your statement made about facing fear is therefore contradictory, albeit illusory.
I do not have any problem in you saying my statement is contradictory. because of the genuine admiration i have for you..because of only that..I would agree to it. even if i think you are wrong..i would agree to it and call it more than "truth"...
only and only because you call/added "albiet illusory"..you to me are a coward!
a baby in his daipers refusing to grow up and like allways crying....i want my mummy..(the world is an illusion)...pathetic!
what do you say marcus...do you have anything to say...?
are you falling down..your voice is getting meeker from time to time...
The ‘here’ is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’. Understand the moment has no perimeters of time. So nothing can exist as an actuality in the ‘here’ which is the ‘now’. ‘There’ is the past as well as the ‘future’, albeit illusory just as the ‘present’ is illusory. The present is the ‘here’ which is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’. Isa upanishad states the world is whole and complete and even a part is complete that is taken out of the complete whole. The complete and the part is the moment ‘here’, the ‘now’, ‘the present’ for it is timeless and thoughtless. Therefore fear, man or the fearless cannot face fear for none do not exist in the 'here', 'the now', 'the 'present' as an actuality.
>>>>The ‘here’ is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’.
the "here" is never "less" and is allways more..be it in thought or in time....
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>>>>>Understand the moment has no perimeters of time.
I go to office by 10.30 and am back by 8.30.
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>>>>> So nothing can exist as an actuality in the ‘here’ which is the ‘now’.
I agree . somthing in the now exists only as "more" than actuality!
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>>>‘There’ is the past as well as the ‘future’, albeit illusory just as the ‘present’ is illusory.
from today stop eating as you already had your dinner yesterday.
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>>>> The present is the ‘here’ which is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’.
now is never less it is allways more...( now dont confuse with wanting "more..now as it is is allways "more")
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>>>>Isa upanishad states the world is whole and complete and even a part is complete that is taken out of the complete whole.
to hell with isa upanishad! if I say eat grass will you eat it?....anyway...why did you read isa or quote from isa when I asked you to?....you should have said to hell with the isa...!!! anyway....
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>>>> The complete and the part is the moment ‘here’, the ‘now’, ‘the present’ for it is timeless and thoughtless. Therefore fear, man or the fearless cannot face fear for none do not exist in the 'here', 'the now', 'the 'present' as an actuality....
1question: if the moment is timeless , thoughtless how come it be of the "part"?
2nd question:I would want you to tell me "in" the "moment" which is the "complete" and which is the "part"
3rd question: where does the "part" begin and the "part" end?
4rth question: what is the complete and what is the part?
you can answer it any sequence then let us come to your "therefore"...
wait wait wait...marcus....theres someone on the "line" ...please hold on....mmmmmm...maybe I will catch up later bye marcus/// hello ahhh yes madam its me angridiot....yes your marcus has been crying for you and I thought you should know....what what ? okay okay ..you want me to call his wife and ask her to change his daipers regularily...okay okay no problem...godd night maam ...bye maam!
marcus are you online....? marcus????
>>>>The ‘here’ is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’.
the moment you say here and now there are both time and thought
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>>>>>>>Understand the moment has no perimeters of time.
yet you post a reply after I post mine and I post a reply after you post yours...both of us must be x-men!
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>>> So nothing can exist as an actuality in the ‘here’ which is the ‘now’. ‘There’ is the past as well as the ‘future’, albeit illusory just as the ‘present’ is illusory.
is simply your fear of there and here being a actuality
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>>>>>>The present is the ‘here’ which is the timeless and thoughtless ‘now’. Isa upanishad states the world is whole and complete and even a part is complete that is taken out of the complete whole.
I dont know. I read only the shanti mantra of the isa! what..dont say..... you thought I studied the entire thing?(even though it has mmmm 18 slokas....? its a small upanishad marcus...)
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>>>>>> The complete and the part is the moment ‘here’, the ‘now’, ‘the present’ for it is timeless and thoughtless. Therefore fear, man or the fearless cannot face fear for none do not exist in the 'here', 'the now', 'the 'present' as an actuality.
I will tell you what! even if what you say is true..mmmm.. i will still say the world is more than an actuality ..forhet about being a actuality.....
that i will say so/or am saying so is the proof of it being so!
>>>>> Therefore fear, man or the fearless cannot face fear for none do not exist in the 'here', 'the now', 'the 'present' as an actuality.
a few years back...my mom asked me...dear AI please stop pestering me..I will tell you what...
take a onion , peel it layer after layer and whats left?
I answered "an opportunity for an onion to be...and opportunity for an onion to be used for this and that...
may be a forest of onions will "be" down the line........"
what is is not empty!
stop being a "what is" freak and grow up!
one reply to one post is routine boss! so I thought maybe we should have 3 replies to one post...just for change....
you are free to anser any 1 of them or all of them...
Angryidiot:
"I go to office by 10.30 and am back by 8.30."
Response: Obviously you have not understood (as yet) what a moment is. Even science has no answer to the question 'what time it is' in the moment in life. So you could not have gone in time but yet have gone, find out how? Understand life and mind are like night and day, they have not met and therefore are not synonymous. Further discusion is pointless.
>>>>>Obviously you have not understood (as yet) what a moment is.
obivously you do not appreciate( as yet ) what a moment can be.
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>>>>> Even science has no answer to the question 'what time it is' in the moment in life.So you could not have gone in time but yet have gone, find out how?
I knew a guy once.he was bitten by a mad dog. From then on he used to punch people in their belly and when asked why..he used to reply "PAIN"??....even science cannot show what "pain" is. can it? can it put it in my hand? for me to see clearly?
I enquired with his father and he told me he read sri sri vijay shankar book on no time ....and used to argue that there was no time. after the dog bit him..it became even more acute madness.
I said dont worry I know of a cure. So I went to him and asked "what is your problem"?
"PAIN"? the mad man asked..even science cannot show what pain is...if you can do it..put it in my hAND FORME TO SEE i WILL LEAVE THIS MADNESS....
SO I TOOK A HOT BURNING IRON ROD( WHICH I ASKED THE FATHER TO KEEP READY) AND PUT IT IN HIS HAND.
I am told he is now a software engineer somewhere in Germany.
this incident happenned , ithink on 29-09-2007. even 1 or 2 local news papers must have reproted it but I am not sure!
forget about sceince...... you cowards too determine whether a seeker has completed paying you(determmination of time) and only then give him/her books(determination time) , and however spread the lie there is no time
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>>>>> Understand life and mind are like night and day, they have not met and therefore are not synonymous.
there you go..brilliant..are you not using time(night & day) to take this angryidiot on? anyway...
your statement is like saying I am not my sons father..only way that could be true is ...well I dont need to tell you!
who/what is saying life and mind have not met?
if it is the mind.... it is impossible for it to "say" without life.
if it is life it is impossible for it to "say" without a mind.
I will not elaborate more.
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>>> Further discusion is pointless.
.there you go again....you use time( "Further"....) to take this angry idiot on...and yet say time/thought is not real.
...which simply demonstrates your cowardice, hypocracy and your lie!
when something is of stake to you , time , night , day, further, till now, then ...payment to Books etc etc are all there. You use them!
however you want the seeker to beleieve that time is not! even the cuban drug delaers do less harm than you folks!
you are a bunch of cheats, liers and cowards...trying to make beggars out of kings.
its not that further discussion is not point less, but rather it is that further discussion will point even more!
so shoooo shoooooo away..you cowards ..away... from your own post! you want to lecture on non duality when you cant hold your own ground in the first place...!!
shooooo shooooo....
So you admit , somone could write a book!
However Vijay Kumars Books , written by him , only, explain how there is no such thing as an action in reality…including “writing a book” and also the writer…SRI SRI SRI vijay kumar is an illusion!
So which one are you taking back…? That vijay kumar has written a book , or that , there is no action in reality …? One of these you have to take back…
However there is /are different routes too..
1. Sri Vijay Kumar is enlightened, LIGHT!!!! So for him there is an action..
2. You only said “books written by vijay kumar” as a matter of saying( in which case you have to take back that Vijay Kumar wrote that book(s)…
What ever the answer I would like to tell you bunch of liars…that I will be waiting…
even if it is a cowardly silence , like a thief being cought..like a dastard burglar being cought...even then I will be waiting..you bunch of absolute academy of cowards!