The Saint and The Enlightened One
Is there such a thing as enlightened behavior? Please share your ideas, doubts, thoughts, feelings...
Just a few examples that are provocative:
- Jiddu Krishnamurti apparently had at least two secret relationships. One with a married woman (and her unknowing husband was an active supporter of his work.) So he didn´t exactly apply the insights he so eloquently spoke in front of his listeners.
(Of course I´m not referring to the fact that he had a relationship [Go Krishnamurti! btw, he wasn´t a weirdo that was anti-sex anyway.] But I´m pointing to his [years long] dishonesty towards the people who were close around him.)
- Osho with his collection of Rolls Royces.
- Sai Baba with his ´strange´ (read: abusive) way of expressing himself sexually. Apart from his phony magic tricks.
- Jezus own-handedly made an end to a bazaar that was held in a temple.
- Some teachers see the eating of meat as a bad thing, others don´t.
(for the record: I do eat meat and I´m convinced [unlike others] that you don´t have to become a vegetarian in order to become enlightened. But I do am curious that if I would go through the gate less gate, if my appetite for meat would naturally fall away.)
- Nissargadata smoked like a chimney.
I could go on with teachers having face-lifts, or gold embroidered clothes, etc... but you get the picture.
Sure, advaita tells there is ´no one´ that get´s enlightened. But I´m talking about the relative play of live here. So let´s hang around in that relative place for a moment - that illusory realm where actions do have consequences.
I guess it all boils down to: what is enlightenment, and from this springs the question: what is ´unenlightenment?´
For me it´s clear that there is a clear distinction between a saint (do they even exist?) and an enlightened one. But I have the sense more can be said about it. Please do...