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"The Enlightened. The Knowledgeable" by Dr. Shankar
The Enlightened. The Knowledgeable
“Light and Sound. Time and Space”
Intelligence is life and life is light in life. Intellect is mind and mind is sound in life. Intelligence has evolved and sophisticated as intellect in the mind. Intellect in turn has evolved and sophisticated as knowledge in the mind.
The process of collecting information has evolved and sophisticated over evolutionary time as knowledge, such as religion, spirituality, science, academics and beliefs of daily life. Collecting information is a process of understanding which has happened to man, and man has not made it happen to him.
The understandings that happen in the intellect and lead to knowledge are the knowledgeable. On the other hand, the understandings that happen in intelligence and reveal wisdom are the enlightened. Neither the knowledgeable nor the enlightened can bring understanding about.
Understanding that has led to knowledge has a reference-point, which is the ego, in the knowledgeable. The ego is a happening of the process of evolution and sophistication in the mind and is not made by man. A knowledgeable man is a manifestation of sound.
Understanding that has revealed wisdom has a reference-point, which is the witnesser in the enlightened. A witnesser is an evolved and sophisticated ego. The knowledgeable man sophisticates as the enlightened when understanding happens to him that the world, man and mind are illusory and not real. An enlightened man is a manifestation of light.
Man is made up of five elements, just as anything else in nature, which make man a part of nature and not separate from it. Therefore, the world, man and mind are nature. Nature evolves and sophisticates every moment.
Nature will evolve and sophisticate every moment eternally, for life is light and sound, which is beginningless and endless. Nature has therefore evolved as the knowledgeable and the enlightened.
An understanding that is knowledge happens to man spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably as a process of nature. Knowledge appears in intellect in the mind during the waking state. The knowledgeable believe that man is the thinker, speaker and the doer.
The knowledgeable believe the world is filled with actions and situations, which are real in time and space. The knowledgeable is an example of nature, which has not yet evolved and sophisticated totally, but nevertheless is in the process.
An understanding, which is wisdom, happens to man spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably as a process of nature. The enlightened is an example of nature, which has evolved and sophisticated totally.
Wisdom appears in intelligence during the waking state too. The enlightened realise the knowledgeable man is not the thinker, speaker or the doer and that life is a flow in the timeless ‘now’ and nameless ‘here’.
The knowledgeable believe that conversation conveys what happens in life and, therefore, believe wisdom or enlightenment can be taught. The enlightened realise conversation is for conversation’s sake and does not indicate actuality either in the mind or life. They therefore explain that knowledge of any form is illusory and not real, and that wisdom or enlightenment can never be taught.
The knowledgeable believe that every form of knowledge is real. The enlightened realise that every form of knowledge is illusory and not real. The knowledgeable believe that words are real in the mind and in life. The enlightened realise that words are sound in life and in the mind too.
The knowledgeable is never content every moment in life and cannot be either, for knowledge is illusory in life and in the mind. The knowledgeable knows and, therefore, believes that the moment is time and space. The enlightened realises and is, therefore, aware and alert that the moment is light and sound.
Author: V. S. Shankar 2010
Copyright: V. S. Shankar
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Amati: life in life
Dear Marcus
hello...
marcus >>>life is light in life....
Response : How?Kindly elicit your understanding on it.
regards.
Response: Light is in life meaning, life is reflected light.
howde marcus
my response:
1. marcus:>> life is reflected light.
reflected where? by what ? and How?
what has this ability to reflect this light ? your reality?
2.Light is in life meaning.
what meaning? please be specific.
regards
P.Gopinadh
1. marcus:>> life is reflected light.
reflected where? by what ? and How?what has this ability to reflect this light ? your reality?
Response: Reflected rays that enter the eye/ To reflect is the innate property of light/ 'How' is a question posed for the ego for it believes in cause and effect. Life is causeless and effectless and so the question 'how' is not applicable to life or light. Everything is a reflection of light for everything is energy which is light which therefore reflect light rays.
2.Light is in life meaning.
what meaning? please be specific.
Response: Meaning (=it means:) light is life and life is light.
Dear Marcus:
Marcus :light is life and life is light.
question 1: Then why is light spelled : L>I>G>H>T and life spelled L>I>F>E ?
2.'How' is a question posed for the ego for it believes in cause and effect.Life is causeless and effectless and so the question 'how' is not applicable to life or light.
One one hand you say it is the innate property of light to "reflect".... effect is implied there.please explain.
3.Meaning (=it means:) light is life and life is light.
how can one which is causeless and effectless have meaning? or be a meaning?
4.for everything is energy
if everything is energy why do at times I run out of energy ? Like when i sprint a track? is this energy you are talking about different?
Please do reply for the 4 questions.
regards marcus
question 1: Then why is light spelled : L>I>G>H>T and life spelled L>I>F>E ?
Response:So that man may understand that light is life and light is life.
2.'How' is a question posed for the ego for it believes in cause and effect.Life is causeless and effectless and so the question 'how' is not applicable to life or light.
One one hand you say it is the innate property of light to "reflect".... effect is implied there.please explain.
Response: Innate does neither imply cause nor effect. It means natural and nature is without cause or effect.
3.Meaning (=it means:) light is life and life is light.
how can one which is causeless and effectless have meaning? or be a meaning?
Response: The word meaning is "used" so that man may understand that life is meaningless for it is causeless and effectless.
4.for everything is energy
if everything is energy why do at times I run out of energy ? Like when i sprint a track? is this energy you are talking about different?
Response: The energy you imply refers to effort and the conviction that man is the doer, which he is not, and cannot be either even if he wanted to. Energy means energy such as electrons, neutrons and protons the basic scientific knowledge of energy, albeit illusory.
dear marcus
marcus>>>So that man may understand that light is life and light is life.
1. thus the cause of light: not being two
narcus>>>Innate does neither imply cause nor effect. It means natural and nature is without cause or effect.
2. no ......nature is without a two. thus you can neither say there is no cause or there is one.
3.life is meaningless
only when you try and give it one. Otherwise it is perfectly,fully meaning ful.
4.The energy you imply refers to effort and the conviction that man is the doer, which he is not, and cannot be either even if he wanted to. Energy means energy such as electrons, neutrons and protons the basic scientific knowledge of energy, albeit illusory.
so if bolt has the understanding that he is not the sprinter he would sprint a kilometer the way he does the 100 meteres?
Amati: 1. thus the cause of light: not being two
Response: Cause and effect are in the mind and not in life. Dual language explains the illusoriness of duality. The mind takes duality for real and is therefore confused.
Amati: 2. no ......nature is without a two. thus you can neither say there is no cause or there is one.
Response: Pure light reflects itself as the illusory and thus APPEARS as two. Therefore the explanation happens that cause and effect are illusory and thoughts only.
Amati: 3.life is meaningless
only when you try and give it one. Otherwise it is perfectly,fully meaning ful.
Response: Meanings are thoughts. Thoughts are sound. Sound is light at a lesser speed. Reflected light is a reflection of pure light.
Amati: 4.so if bolt has the understanding that he is not the sprinter he would sprint a kilometer the way he does the 100 meteres?
Response: Understanding is not a certain power to achieve anything. Understanding is to understand that the world is illusory as is a doer.
hello macrus
why is your madam allowing you to blog on sundays? Ahhh? On sundays me thinks you should stay home and cook lunch.
hey do you you know the full form of WIFE?
Without Information Fighting Always.
of course my wife insists that it stands for
With Idiot for ever.
kidding boss..
marcus>>>Pure light reflects itself as the illusory
response >>> there is no self cnosciousness,( originally). THus how come purelight and "itself"...?
2. marcus>>>Understanding is not a certain power to achieve anything. Understanding is to understand that the world is illusory as is a doer.
HOwcome? Your second line contradicts the first.And your notion of power too appears lap sided. Power can consist of an wonderful opportunity.
THUS SAYING EVERyTHING IS ENERGY/LIGHT/ LIGHT IS LIFE etc.....
is again only/but an interpretation of ..... NOT TWO.
regards
MArcus.
Dear Amati,
Wife is a thought in the mind and not an actuality in life.
Sunday is a thought too.
Idiot is a thought too.
Response: Consciousness is not personal. The personal self appears in consciousness.
"Purelight and "itself" - illusory words condition the mind and illusory words de-condition the mind.
This understanding doesn't give the power to control how long to run by will and choice.
howde marcus
hey my wife wanted me to buy some slippers for her today. I told her boss ....dear wife " you" are a thought...just leave me alone!AND THEN....You know chapati..the indian bread ? they pound the flour first...?
anyway
marcus>>>>Consciousness is not personal. The personal self appears in consciousness
response>>> thus "light" reflects itself is not the correct knowledge.
marcus>>>"Purelight and "itself" - illusory words condition the mind and illusory words de-condition the mind.
is "LIGHT" thus such a word?
regards
Amati: I told her boss ....dear wife " you" are a thought...just leave me alone!
Response: This is also a thought which happens. If the understanding remains knowledge this could happen, nothing could be done about it. Understand that words are illusory, don't believe it (if it happens)!
amati: marcus>>>>Consciousness is not personal. The personal self appears in consciousness
response>>> thus "light" reflects itself is not the correct knowledge.
Response: Light is not a doer. Reflection happens illusory.
Amati: marcus>>>"Purelight and "itself" - illusory words condition the mind and illusory words de-condition the mind.
is "LIGHT" thus such a word?
Response: Words and meanings and understandings happen spontanously, unpredictably, uncontrollably.
And any word could either lead to knowledge and therefore condition the mind. And any world could lead to wisdom and de-conditions the mind.
Dear Marcus
hello...
marcus >>>life is light in life....
Response : How?Kindly elicit your understanding on it.
regards.