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Are we all hypnotized by our experience?


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Often we are convinced of something, (also convinced of no-thing), because of what we call an experience.  Is that a personal hypnotism?  Let’s look into this mechanism.

By itself, I think that we can say that all experience comes and goes. (Is that our experience, Ha?)  If something is not happening now what could keep it around, what could hold it in our attention?  MEMORY!  Memory is made up of patterns that we have given meaning to.  Maybe the patterns are just made out of the meaning we have given.  Those experiences that we haven’t given meaning to come and go just as raw unremarkable experience.

For example, when we define certain happenings as unremarkable, they come and go in unknown quantities. We either ignore them totally, or for sure we don’t catalog them.  When something is new, or unexplainable, or is remarkable we hold onto it with memory. We contemplate it and study it to determine if it is dangerous, or if it is desirable.  Only when we get a satisfactory explanation (a meaning) can we let it go into the unremarkable.

Hypnotism is a belief and an experience of that belief.  I am a chicken; well maybe that’s radical, but which came first the chicken or the egg, the belief or the experience. I think that it is safe to say that all of our world view, and our place in that world is a hypnotism.  So is all of our virtual, language based programming.  Our body and our tissue are not a hypnotism. All of our beliefs are. (Last Paragraph click)

Is it good not to be hypnotized?  Well the way we are saying it everything in our perception is a mental enchantment.  So we can’t really yearn for no hypnotism. But we can be aware that our belief, or our interpretation make up an unknown (major) part of our reality. That awareness will be a softening, whereby we are not so invested in what we think that we know.  In that softer ambient, changes will happen that we can call growth.

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Richard, It is every honest

Richard,
It is every honest man’s experience that they come and go. Patterns in life is an evolutionary phenomenon and so is memory. The meaning to the patterns and to the words in memory too is an evolutionary phenomenon and it is not man who has given meaning to the patterns or to the words in his memory. The meaning to the words and patterns is the aliveness of the experience, and man has no control over the aliveness of the moment. You have agreed that man has no control over the aliveness of the moment.
Your example does not hold ground on logic, reason or science. You say that man holds within his memory if anything is remarkable. You do not seem to understand that it is not man who has built his memory but it is life that has evolved memory within man. The remarkable and unremarkable come and go and this depends on life’s aliveness for the moment and not on man.
Hypnosis is neither a belief nor an experience of that belief. Hypnosis is being highly responsive to suggestion or direction. When you behave like a chicken under hypnosis, you do not have an experience of that behaviour or belief. The egg or the chicken do not have that experience as to who came first and neither has man an experience of being a chicken or an egg. Man is hypnotized by his beliefs that they are real and not illusory. Our body and tissue surely is hypnosis, because they are made up of light and yet man is hypnotized by his belief that his body and tissue is real.
That our belief and interpretation make up an unknown part of our apparent reality too would be hypnosis and not awareness, because man under hypnosis is not aware of his actions, just as is somnambulism. Man is also not aware of the aliveness of every moment before it happens. When we become aware that aliveness happens to us and we are not in control of it we become wise. This change and growth too is NOT under man’s control, for the simple reason the moment and the aliveness within it is not under man’s control. It happens if it is meant to happen.
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The chicken and the egg

Can we discuss the often unquestioned concept that change and growth are something that we should pursue and actively attempt to achieve through effort?

Does the egg hatch through any desire or effort or thought that the embryo engages in?

Does the chick grow into a chicken through any desire, intention or mental effort?

I won't labour the point but the fact is that an egg is perfectly an egg and a chicken is perfectly a chicken. Whatever actually is, now, is perfectly what it is. Rather than fully accepting our present perfection 'as is', the human mind has been conditioned (or hypnotised as Richard puts it) to think of the present moment as lacking something - something that I think I can bring about through effort and struggle.

To be what we actually are in the present moment requires no effort at all.

To fully accept and engage with what actually is in the present doesn't mean that we don't act. The action that arises from present moment awareness is sometimes called 'not-doing' but this doesn't mean that nothing is done. It means that there is no imagining what was and what will be as comparison to the idea of what is happening now. There may not even be an idea of what is happening now. Just this present moment effortlessly unfolding in awareness.

The whole process of coming and going, experiencing, memory, conditioning, being hypnotised etc is what is. If we desire something different and focus on possible future scenarios we move our awareness away from what is into imaginary, hypothetically possible futures that have no actual existence. We are constantly shifting our awareness from the factual to the fictitious.

Some seem to think that change can only occur if we focus on the imaginary - our desires for the future. A whole industry has been built around the concept of 'visualisation' and it has become commonly accepted as a means of creating 'the future'. Meanwhile, the actuality of the present moment receives scant attention.

The fact is that change is inevitable and cannot be prevented. Can the awareness of what is in the present moment - the full attention to THIS - actually bring about a far more radical change than giving attention to the imaginary? Perhaps, but if we think that it will we have already strayed into the imaginary again......

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Living life hands-off is an illusion

Change and growth are something that we should actively pursue and attempt to achieve through intention. OR, Change and growth are something that we should inactively observe, and seek to keep our slate clean of any intention, in order not to distort the process?

An egg will either rot, or hatch or be fried. The chicken may live inside or outside of a coop, and also maybe end up in the stew.  That can be perfect if the cook has had the intention to learn good recipes.

1. In my way of looking there is no way I can separate my interior imaginings (or intentions) from the qualities of this moment.  If I am striving, then that striving arrises within what I am striving about, and it all can be accepted.  When I realized that, I thought to give it a go to be more the author of my own life. It has been a good game that I would reccomend.

When I read your post it seems you and your mind are held as apart from what is here now (and supposedly perfect).  Aren’t you and your mind (and your effort) also here now? Aren’t you and your mind and your effort supposedly perfect (because they are already here)?

2. My premise is that we already don’t know what is, because our experience of it is tainted by our interpretation and our memory, (this leaves us with no pure factual).  I am saying that desiring and focusing on an imagined future is little or no different from desiring that I don’t focus on the future.  So that I personally have given up preferring one over the other.

3.  Change indeed happens by itself.  Last year they raised my real estate taxes.  Instead of standing in awe of its perfection I had an intention, and I filed an appeal.  That saved me $1000.  It still wasn’t perfect, but had less sting.

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Ha ha

Ha ha, Richard, I love it!

Yes, of course the imaginings and intentions are part of what is currently happening. I am not suggesting that we should put effort into repressing or attempting to 'escape' from what is. Rather, I am asking if 'effort' is necessary if we are attentive to what is. I am suggesting that we appreciate these imaginings and intentions for what they are, here and now, instead of seeing them only as insignificant paths or impediments to a more important future.

We could say that the cooking of the egg is only occurring because of the future eating and the previous desire for eggs on toast. The present is then seen as merely functioning as a link between past and future. The cooking in the present is considered to be the effort required to get to the future and has no value of its own.

What I am trying to ask is if the present needs to be seen as the effort to reach the future or can it be appreciated for itself, as it is. I don't think this in any way impedes the change from uncooked egg to cooked egg except that we are not constantly imagining the future but allowing ourselves to be effortlessly in the present while this is occurring.

You write: Change and growth are something that we should actively pursue and attempt to achieve through intention. OR, Change and growth are something that we should inactively observe, and seek to keep our slate clean of any intention, in order not to distort the process?

Firstly, seeking to keep our slate clean of intention IS actively pursuing and attempting to achieve through intention. I am not advocating this.

Secondly you only give two alternatives in an either/or. What about OR We actively observe our intention, our action and our change and growth?

We could also take the 'should' out of your statement and see what happens. (Change and growth are something that we actively pursue and attempt to achieve through intention. ) Now we are just observing the fact of 'what is' without comparison to 'what should be'. We have shifted from looking at an imaginary possible future to what is occurring in the present. Can we just stay with this fact without criticism and see what it is rather than looking to where it may lead? Is this a valid way of appreciating our life?

Whether I observe where I am now, or if I observe the point on the horizon that I am going towards, I will probably still arrive at the same place. When I get to that point will I be observing where I am or gazing off at some other horizon?

It's probably not necessary to say any of this........

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