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Andreas Moritz on life


A dialogue to remember, Andreas Moritz
Such a multi-faceted discussion
We expressed views on many topics

 First we had to talk about health, but I wanted to show how the same limitations of medicine plague us in every facet of life.

We only move when anxiety becomes unbearable, and we somehow believe that the anxiety helps us find a solution.  Here we saw that the anxiety is actually the root of every condition and that this is the energy that feeds the conceptual base of the problem.

I watched Andreas Moritz because a friend had mentioned his name a while ago. Although some of what Andreas talks about is about body reacting to emotional and psychological stressors, it is not clear how some sages after years of practice and having ' no self' left in them ( Ramana Maharshi) end up having cancer. One has to remember that what Andreas is proposing is just a theory. While I agree more on the power of the mind to overcome illnesses of the body - complementing and speeding up the process of healing, the converse is not necessarily true. People get cancers due to exposure to external toxins and not necessarily due to emotional repression. This is no different from Freud attributing all kinds of mental illnesses to oedipus complex. There is danger in promoting a personal theory as a fact, especially when it involves medical conditions for which people should get appropriate attention from experts without having the attached 'guilt' that they somehow brought it on themselves. such belief systems soon disintegrate into ' blame' and guilt' for those who are suffering from an illness. This additional burden on those who are already suffering from an illness is totally unnecessary. Worse yet, imagine a society reverting back to those days when children born with some illness were considered to be 'possessed' or considered to be born with a 'curse' and this evil would be beaten out of them.
It is easy to get lost in La La land.

Richard Miller's picture

RAMANA MAHARSHI IS A NO LABEL

Yet you want to propose that he 'had', he possessed, he embodied, he was consumed by a label that you call cancer. Is that your theory? Why are you promoting that theory as a fact? Please tell me your authority, what makes you the knower of this. (Maybe you do, but I want to know it too?)

If you are also a no-self, why would you 'get' the self you are calling a cancer by external toxins, but be free of the toxin of emotional repression, that you might be feeding yourself every day (every minute). Emotional repression may be a radio station that you are tuned into every second of your so far life. It must appear in that life somewhere. Judge the tree by its fruits.

"It's not your fault" is the only possibility for a no-self. How could there be any guilt or self recrimination when there is no self to be found?

Richard Miller
Let all man rest in their true nature.

michielkroon's picture

I love this discussion! I hope Andreas returns some time. If it happens please ask him about chronic fatigue, which I'm going through. Andreas has an amazing insight on how illness operates on different levels. A simple example I experienced myself is eating sugar leads to nervousness (emotional) and exhaustion (physical). I want to go into this illness a little bit: I didn't ever really crashed from the fague, there are just periods of lower energy. I just seem to operate at a lower level of energy, adapting to the situation, but losing some self-confidence. Could you please ask Andreas for any comments if you talk to him again?

Peter's picture

Your comment, michielkroon, reminds me of a recent lament that I gave myself the privilege of indulging in.

I miss the days when Richard conducted interviews which allowed callers to call in with additional questions and comments.

The Friendship chats are nice, but... they still involve only two dancers on the conversational dance floor.

I miss the days when other dancers were permitted to join the dance.

Thanks for reminding me of that.

Warmest regards,

Me

Richard Miller's picture

I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT.

I guess I came up with a concept that an audience participation format should have a regular schedule, (like in 2009 when I broadcast every Sunday, and Wednesday too for a while). Without much help I had too much material to produce and edit. Even now I have about 70 episodes that are not edited nor shared.

I put out the feeble call for help several times, but nothing seems to arise. So I stopped the regular broadcasts. I could just forget editing and sharing and leave everything as a onetime event? I could get better at the original production so that nothing needs editing nor sound filtering and compression.

Now I am capturing events for a while. That is intense, although I do get bucket loads of energy from it. The SIG retreat had me working even 16 hours a day and more. Now I have a dozen films and I just collected 4 with Margot 2 days before. So in less than a week I have almost 20 more long editing jobs.

Maybe I should simplify my life?

I will do some more interactive formats.

If I was in a financed project, where others could be hired, I would broadcast live every day. One year ago I made a short film referring to Leo LaPort, who broadcasts live 40 hours a week. I know how to do it. I would take that job.

Who is going to hire me?

Richard Miller
Let all man rest in their true nature.

Peter's picture

Occassionally, Richard, I will visit a couple of other related websites, where I can listen to similar conversations and interviews. But they include audio links, as well as some video ones.

For me to "entertain" (thanks, Paul H.) the thoughts that are being shared in a conversation or interview, I do not need to view a video to accomplish that. Audio clips are fine and dandy; if not better, in some circumstances.

Why do I mention this?

Because audio clips require minimal editing and recording requirements.

Planting a seed here, Richard.

Regards,

Me

P.S. Methinks that we may have become too dependent on the visual media these days. There aren't too many more invigorating experiences for me, than than driving a car for hours and hours while listening to a thought-provoking CD. Long live audio!

michielkroon's picture

Hey Richard,

Maybe it would be helpful to focus on the most valuable events and conversations, and leave the rest unedited. Some of the words people are sharing are a repetition. The message of Never Not Here might be clearer with a focus on the more valuable/original stuff.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, there are already a lot of video's in the archive. So as far as the conventional non-duality goes, all ground is completely covered. Why not try to think of a list of subjects that would be new and interesting to explore and then focus on that?

Things might get simpler when you know what you want to invest in and you want to leave aside. Then maybe there's no need to make this a day-job, unless you want to ;-)

Richard Miller's picture

YOU'VE BOTH GOT A POINT

1. The audios are there, in the Mp3's and I' will make a new batch. Those are cut and filtered and compressed, which maybe is easier when there is a visual benchmark during the process. OK I am hearing you, to leave the defects in. OK, as the original broadcast, that is just the way they are, (and I make plenty enough of screw-ups.). But then for many hundreds of future listenings, it doesn't seem right to feed everyone that irritation. (noises etc.)

Then for me, it would be hard to choose in a big pile of audios, without some visual clues. Or I would have to write some type of summary on each content?

2. Sure I am fed up with "non-dual repetition". For me, I would trash all the old jargon.

3. I like Moritz, because he has touched the lives of many 1000's of people with a profound level of common sense, and really made a radical difference in their lives.

4. I want to concentrate on the younger generations, get into the colleges, or younger. I want to develop a new audience so that a new languaging will be developed. The expectations of the old seekers always seems to pull out the same language. For the life of me, I can't see how they're satisfied with that? There is some comfort level I suppose?

Look at the first 2 that I will put up tomorrow from the SIG retreat, the panel and Friendship 23.

Richard Miller
Let all man rest in their true nature.

Peter's picture

I wholeheartedly agree with point No. 4 of yours, Richard.

Which is why someone like this... http://www.takuin.com/ ... would meet that bill.

Point No. 4 is a thoroughly worthwhile objective.

Kudos for recognizing it as such.

michielkroon's picture

Hey Richard,

Here's a list of what I would be interested in:
1) Anything original, creative and relevant
2) Stuff that doesn't give people anything new to seek (an experience, state etc.)
3) People that use language that the common man could understand. I wouldn't trash the old language, it's just not a good starting point if one is new to this. Nonetheless, you've got the conventional non-duality covered in the archives so no need for more repetition.
4) Things around health (a personal interest)